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Re: Post Employment Depression: For Whiners Only

Postby Earl Butz » Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:34 am

Yeah I was just trying to be helpful. Butch gave you wise advice too. I think it would be sad actually if no one came forward and tried to help you. And there's no ulterior motives on our part. Just compassion to a human who looks like he's drowning.

But it's your life. I think your relatively young age is the only thing saving you from the grim reaper at the moment.
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Re: Post Employment Depression: For Whiners Only

Postby batty » Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:20 pm

I found this in the paper today (well, the online version, that is)
http://www.mitacstrends.com/employment.html

Very informative to get a sense of the "numbers", especially how it all goes red in the late 2008/early 2009. While I'm fully aware that this does nothing in helping someone who's unemployed land a job faster, there's a saying in French that comparison brings about consolation ("quand on se compare, on se console") and if there's one thing that this fancy animation says clearly is that "you are not alone".

My best thoughts to those currently unemployed, hoping that you'll bounce back on your feet very soon!
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Re: Post Employment Depression: For Whiners Only

Postby Xaphan » Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:04 am

batty wrote:...there's a saying in French that comparison brings about consolation ("quand on se compare, on se console") and if there's one thing that this fancy animation says clearly is that "you are not alone".


I think the French put it more eloquently than the English equivalent to that saying, Misery Loves Company. Unemployment sucks, I'm sure. I've been lucky that when I've been unemployed it was always by choice. Good luck with job search to anyone who is looking. I'll send some good luck vibes.
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Re: Post Employment Depression: For Whiners Only

Postby J » Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:26 pm

Earl Butz wrote:I think your relatively young age is the only thing saving you from the grim reaper at the moment.


Could be, but what's scary when you think about it is I'm not all that young when you look at (have to name celebrities here to get the grim point across):

Heath Ledger, 28 years old. Dana Plato, 34 years old, River Phoenix, 23 years old. And they are only three in (somewhat) recent years. There have been more, they're just not coming to mind. Point is, I'm older than they were when they expired, so it's a sobering thought. On the other hand, maybe it would take the pain and stress away once and for all. I don't think it's my time yet. If it was, I would have been gone in 1995 or anytime between 2003 and now.

Please send some good luck vibes Drexel, many of us desperately need it. I'm just about to file chapter 7 bankruptcy for the 2nd time in 10 years because I'm being sued (again) and there's no way in hell I can pay off $70,000+ in debts, attorney's fees, etc ("RIGHT NOW") that have accumulated. Not without a miracle job or winning the lottery. Don't they know we're in a depression? There's no blood to be squeezed from this stone. I hope you or anyone in your situation never have to lose job after job for no fault of your own then have your car repoed, get sued, lose countless interviews because of the economy and see how bleak things can ultimately get. If you haven't experienced it, you don't know how much it sucks, and trust me, you don't want to.

So I'm applying to countless more jobs, but keeping my expectations very low. The last thing I need to add into this equation is more disappointment.
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Re: Post Employment Depression: For Whiners Only

Postby butch » Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:18 am

Gee, I thought my debt load was bad when I filed for bankruptcy 12 years ago, but it was nowhere near your load. It is definitely the route to go, in spite of the other hassles it will bring. I finally just got a credit card this year. I couldn't even open a chequing account... still can't. Fortunately my original bank (TD Canada Trust) let me keep my chequing account I've had since 1980 in spite of the bankruptcy.

At the time I was severely depressed and there was no hope of catching up soon. I could have paid it off, in time, but Revenue Canada was after me for something not my fault at all, and they wouldn't even listen to an appeal and I couldn't afford a tax lawyer to fight them. Their loss... they got nothing and I got a new lease on life.

Then I left my old life behind, in spite of having regular work ( I free lanced in the photography assisting world ) and moved to Vancouver to start life all over again. It kind of freaked out some of my regular clients, but it was the right move for me. There were plenty of young assistants glad to see me (the competition) out of the way.

If banks can bail out, you should be allowed a new chance too.
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Re: Post Employment Depression: For Whiners Only

Postby J » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:54 pm

butch wrote:If banks can bail out, you should be allowed a new chance too.


Agreed. The banks/Wall St get bailed out because THEY screwed up (and will do it again I guarantee), and as a result, they now have the funds/resources to get lawyers and sue "because they can". I don't see how their bailouts helped us at all. Oh well, let them write off my debts once and for all, I can't pay them, and with no job/car, there's little hope that I can (especially "RIGHT NOW" as they're demanding). Let their lawyers lose their fat fees/court costs they spent on suing me. Chapter 7 means everything (expect IRS stuff and the like) is wiped out 100% and my debt is gone. Sure, my credit's f***ed for several years, but it already is! I'll just get a secured card when I can afford it and after 2 years of steady payments (even on a $200 card), I'll be back above 620 (or "average"). Like I said before, they can't squeeze blood from a stone, and there are a lot of "stones" in this current economic depression.
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Re: Post Employment Depression: For Whiners Only

Postby olywaguy » Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:16 pm

I was told Monday, that there is the possibility that I might be laid off. I have over 12 years of working there. It is possible that I may be able to bump someone else but it is likely that their job is a lower classification than mine. Retirement contribution is not very much. I've spoken to my union shop stewards..will speak more about it to them come Monday.

This is not something that I am looking forward to if it does happen. I've been feeling all bummed all week. My heart is not in my work any more...it has been a very distracting week for sure.
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Re: Post Employment Depression: For Whiners Only

Postby Gaydudelaf » Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:17 am

olywaguy wrote:I was told Monday, that there is the possibility that I might be laid off. I have over 12 years of working there. It is possible that I may be able to bump someone else but it is likely that their job is a lower classification than mine. Retirement contribution is not very much. I've spoken to my union shop stewards..will speak more about it to them come Monday.

This is not something that I am looking forward to if it does happen. I've been feeling all bummed all week. My heart is not in my work any more...it has been a very distracting week for sure.


OMG Carlos. This is horrible news! My prayers go out to you!
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Re: Post Employment Depression: For Whiners Only

Postby DeckApe » Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:25 pm

olywaguy wrote:I was told Monday, that there is the possibility that I might be laid off. I have over 12 years of working there. It is possible that I may be able to bump someone else but it is likely that their job is a lower classification than mine. Retirement contribution is not very much. I've spoken to my union shop stewards..will speak more about it to them come Monday.

This is not something that I am looking forward to if it does happen. I've been feeling all bummed all week. My heart is not in my work any more...it has been a very distracting week for sure.


Carlos, fellow state employee, you have my sympathy. At least your gig hasn't been on the news every two weeks in case anyone forgets we're all a bunch of pirates... :evil:
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Re: Post Employment Depression: For Whiners Only

Postby nimby » Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:58 pm

I've been out of work since last June. Lots happened in between then and now, so maybe time to start looking for a job soon.
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Re: Post Employment Depression: For Whiners Only

Postby Gaydudelaf » Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:57 pm

any of you IT guys let me are Matt know because we can take your resume into work.
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Re: Post Employment Depression: For Whiners Only

Postby olywaguy » Thu May 05, 2011 10:53 pm

An update about a highly possible layoff and elimination of position.

I have applied for two library positions. One at Stanford University and the other at Central Washington University (CWU).

I had a phone interview on Tuesday with CWU and it went well. They called me yesterday for an invitation for an on-site interview next Thursday. So, there is a strong possibility for a job opportunity here. The department head is a colleague and is familiar with my work.

Stanford will be looking at resumes next week. Don't know how I would fare with that job search since there will be a lot more competition. Of course, it would be a large salary but also that area of the country has a much higher cost of living. If by some miracle of God, I become a finalist and chosen for the position, I thought maybe a move to San Jose would be better since it is a little less expensive than the other localities nearby. I also like the fact that San Jose has a state university with a master's of library science program. There would be great motivation for me to get my MLS degree.

However, at this point, the position at CWU would be my most likely bet. I know I would enjoy it very much. That area of Washington gets a lot of snow but also gets a lot of sun. July is the warmest month apparently.
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Re: Post Employment Depression: For Whiners Only

Postby Gaydudelaf » Thu May 05, 2011 11:25 pm

Want my mom to put you on her prayer list?

olywaguy wrote:An update about a highly possible layoff and elimination of position.

I have applied for two library positions. One at Stanford University and the other at Central Washington University (CWU).

I had a phone interview on Tuesday with CWU and it went well. They called me yesterday for an invitation for an on-site interview next Thursday. So, there is a strong possibility for a job opportunity here. The department head is a colleague and is familiar with my work.

Stanford will be looking at resumes next week. Don't know how I would fare with that job search since there will be a lot more competition. Of course, it would be a large salary but also that area of the country has a much higher cost of living. If by some miracle of God, I become a finalist and chosen for the position, I thought maybe a move to San Jose would be better since it is a little less expensive than the other localities nearby. I also like the fact that San Jose has a state university with a master's of library science program. There would be great motivation for me to get my MLS degree.

However, at this point, the position at CWU would be my most likely bet. I know I would enjoy it very much. That area of Washington gets a lot of snow but also gets a lot of sun. July is the warmest month apparently.
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Re: Post Employment Depression: For Whiners Only

Postby olywaguy » Fri May 06, 2011 8:37 am

Gaydudelaf wrote:Want my mom to put you on her prayer list?


Yes, that is so sweet of you. I could use all the prayers I could get. :D
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Re: Post Employment Depression: For Whiners Only

Postby olywaguy » Sat May 14, 2011 2:48 am

Well, I just returned from my on-site interview at CWU. It went well as I seem to get along with the folks in the committee and they seemed to like me a lot. I spent most of the day with them. They showed me the documents department, had lunch with them and looked around the campus. I will get a response from them sometime early next week. Let's see how it goes.
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Re: Post Employment Depression: For Whiners Only

Postby nimby » Sat May 14, 2011 10:22 am

best of luck!!!
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Re: Post Employment Depression: For Whiners Only

Postby Phoenix6570 » Sun May 15, 2011 4:40 pm

olywaguy wrote:Well, I just returned from my on-site interview at CWU. It went well as I seem to get along with the folks in the committee and they seemed to like me a lot. I spent most of the day with them. They showed me the documents department, had lunch with them and looked around the campus. I will get a response from them sometime early next week. Let's see how it goes.


I'm glad you think things went well and I wish you the best of luck!!
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Re: Post Employment Depression: For Whiners Only

Postby olywaguy » Wed May 18, 2011 8:47 pm

Well, I received some news from Central Washington University this morning...I GOT THE JOB!!

Since they need me right away, I will begin the job on July 1st...the beginning of the new fiscal year.

Now the process of moving to a new place begins.
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Re: Post Employment Depression: For Whiners Only

Postby Earl Butz » Wed May 18, 2011 11:48 pm

Congrats! :mrgreen:
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Re: Post Employment Depression: For Whiners Only

Postby DeckApe » Thu May 19, 2011 8:32 pm

CONGRATULATIONS, CARLOS! Nice to have some good news in this thread.
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Re: Post Employment Depression: For Whiners Only

Postby Gaydudelaf » Fri May 20, 2011 9:22 am

olywaguy wrote:Well, I received some news from Central Washington University this morning...I GOT THE JOB!!

Since they need me right away, I will begin the job on July 1st...the beginning of the new fiscal year.

Now the process of moving to a new place begins.



WHEW! CARLOS! I am so happy for you!!!!!
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Re: Post Employment Depression: For Whiners Only

Postby Phoenix6570 » Fri May 20, 2011 9:41 am

olywaguy wrote:Well, I received some news from Central Washington University this morning...I GOT THE JOB!!

Since they need me right away, I will begin the job on July 1st...the beginning of the new fiscal year.

Now the process of moving to a new place begins.


YAY!!! Congrats
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Postby Guinness Fan » Fri May 20, 2011 6:39 pm

Well Done Carlos ~ Congrats!
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Re: Post Employment Depression: For Whiners Only

Postby madsglen » Fri May 20, 2011 7:31 pm

Great news, Carlos! Glad it worked out for you. Enjoy your move and settling in on the other side of the "Cascade Curtain"...
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Re: Post Employment Depression: For Whiners Only

Postby olywaguy » Fri May 20, 2011 8:03 pm

Today I mailed my security deposit and application fee for my new apartment.

At work, I have begun the process of clearing out my office (I have lots of stuff) and because I am also closing out the collection, I am looking at things that need to be sent to Archives.

Now, I need to begin the packing process at home.
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