People still believe Gays are feminine. Are we?

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People still believe Gays are feminine. Are we?

Postby catapult » Sun Jun 05, 2011 11:36 pm

People still believe Gays are feminine. That we are Gay because we are more girl than guy. Or that we are Gay because we received more estrogen than testosterone. Or that we were socialized as girls, not boys. Or in a Gay relationship, one is the Man and the other the Woman.

I mean, these are Myths aren't they? And yet they still seemed to be widely accepted.

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Re: People still believe Gays are feminine. Are we?

Postby olywaguy » Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:44 am

That's because, pride events choose drag queens to host, there are lots of guys that like to cross dress and there are some kids that show effeminate tendencies.

Have you ever seen any accountants, lawyers, and doctors in a pride parade? No. You see the drag queens and the leather guys...it is either hyper effeminate or hyper masculine, nothing in between. The guys that are in between don't make themselves known but the effeminates and hyper masculine do.
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Re: People still believe Gays are feminine. Are we?

Postby solat » Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:16 am

olywaguy wrote:Have you ever seen any accountants, lawyers, and doctors in a pride parade?


Doctors - Yes
Lawyers - Yes
Accountants - Never seen one attend without leathers and a whip.
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Re: People still believe Gays are feminine. Are we?

Postby David » Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:57 am

It's because lawyers and accountants do not wear chaps or flashy outfits. If they did, I think people would want to do their taxes or like getting sued more often. :P
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Re: People still believe Gays are feminine. Are we?

Postby edu999 » Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:30 pm

olywaguy wrote:
Have you ever seen any accountants, lawyers, and doctors in a pride parade?


Yes, actually. Along with ministers, nurses, tech geeks, politicians, teachers... along with oldies, youngsters, fatties, and muscle marys (maries?)... right beside drag queens, leather bears, trannies, S&M folks, and porn stars.
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Re: People still believe Gays are feminine. Are we?

Postby Rico » Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:54 pm

edu999 wrote:
olywaguy wrote:
Have you ever seen any accountants, lawyers, and doctors in a pride parade?


Yes, actually. Along with ministers, nurses, tech geeks, politicians, teachers... along with oldies, youngsters, fatties, and muscle marys (maries?)... right beside drag queens, leather bears, trannies, S&M folks, and porn stars.

Not sure how I feel about this, but there's a policeman in California who won't be seen in the parade as his real, everyday self.

A California cop is filing a suit against his precinct after he was told he could not march in uniform Sunday in the West Hollywood Gay Pride Parade because it would bring "discredit" to his department. The officer made a formal request in writing to proudly attend the event with other gay law enforcement officers, but was promptly informed by the department that they would not allow it.

Now, the proud officer has hired Gloria Allred to represent him in an employment discrimination complaint and he is bringing forward his department's response, which they put IN WRITING, in a press conference this afternoon.


http://www.tmz.com/2011/06/06/gay-cop-sues-gay-pride-parade-march-sexual-orientation-gloria-allred-discredit-employment-discrimination/
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Postby Phoenix6570 » Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:19 am

^ In my opinion thats wrong. To say that its bringing "discredit" is outright discrimination. What if he wanted to wear it to the Puerto Rican day parade? Or another type of parade celebrating something; would they ban him from wearing it there? Its not like its going to be a huge group either just this officer. It doesn't make any sense. If people see him in normal clothes at the parade but then recognize him as an officer is the same "discredit" there? I think they're afraid of being stigmatized but they're being foolish.

I think everyone has their own blend of masculine and feminine traits. Everyone's makeup is different and some people will have more on one side than the other; some people have a good balance. They're so many traits to be concerned about though yet people always focus on the least important ones...
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Re: People still believe Gays are feminine. Are we?

Postby jeangurl » Sun Jun 19, 2011 4:26 am

Some of us are some of the time,some of us are inside and hide it while some are straightacting but would like to flame and be girlie. :roll:
I am some of each of the above,I feel like a girl inside but act quite macho and only at parties where my straight persona is not known do I flame and act "myself" :oops:
I have boxed played rugby and work out a lot but i have always been agirly sissie at heart.

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Re: People still believe Gays are feminine. Are we?

Postby Frizzurd » Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:46 pm

I am attracted to effeminate men and yet when ever i check the dating sites i see nothing but butch looking dudes. All i ever get hit on is by butch looking dudes as well. homosexuality continues to be equated with being fem(nothing wrong with fem but it gets demonized as making us inferior) and yet....straights keep on getting more and more sissier in typical hypocrite fashion.
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Re: People still believe Gays are feminine. Are we?

Postby Davy » Sat Oct 01, 2011 4:57 pm

I've noticed that. Gay guys seem to be butching it up while Straight guys are getting more in touch with their feminine side. Crazy times we live in. :lol:
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Postby nimby » Sat Oct 01, 2011 9:40 pm

Agreed. Like I said long ago, the line between gay and straight is becomming so blurred, I hardly think it matters anymore. Masculinity is very subjective now a days. I think most women now a days are more masculine then actual men.
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Re: People still believe Gays are feminine. Are we?

Postby catapult » Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:27 pm

A friend of mine just insisted that it is an accepted "scientific" fact that gays are women in men's bodies.

See, I started this thread because I felt that this is still a very widely accepted theory.

I told him, No that would be a transsexual. He didn't agree.

I'm not out to him, so I couldn't say I am gay and happy in my male body.

He's convinced gays are women.
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Re: People still believe Gays are feminine. Are we?

Postby furface » Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:30 pm

Actually, it's more likely a excepted scientific 'fact', and most certainly nothing approaching reality.

I'm gonna to guess and posit your 'friend' was either home schooled or managed to get through the Texas public school 'system' by the skin of his teeth. :mrgreen:
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Re: People still believe Gays are feminine. Are we?

Postby ProMale » Sat Nov 26, 2011 4:33 pm

Gays certainly are feminine, since they idolize, and model themselves on, hetfems. As such, they're just a version of hetmales, who also centralize women. The real men, and the ones most free of misandry and homophobia, are not the gays, but the homosexuals. I, by the way, am a homosexual. As for your anxiety, it is justified, since femininity, being a gender of dishonesty and sex addiction, is fully a mental illness. Hence my avoidance of gays and hetfems alike.
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Re: People still believe Gays are feminine. Are we?

Postby nimby » Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:27 pm

Wow. I think you should have posted that one in the "Internalized Homophobia" thread. :shock:
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Postby ProMale » Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:54 am

nimby wrote:Wow. I think you should have posted that one in the "Internalized Homophobia" thread. :shock:


Wow. Look who's talking. You haven't even appreciated the distinction between the gays and homosexuals. The very words 'gay' and 'straight' are homophobic. How could they not be? After all, they were invented by heterosexuals.
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Postby ProMale » Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:59 am

Frizzurd wrote:I am attracted to effeminate men and yet when ever i check the dating sites i see nothing but butch looking dudes. All i ever get hit on is by butch looking dudes as well. homosexuality continues to be equated with being fem(nothing wrong with fem but it gets demonized as making us inferior) and yet....straights keep on getting more and more sissier in typical hypocrite fashion.


Acutally, there is something wrong with fem. Femininity is not a sex, but a gender, which is to say, a constellation of learned behaviors. And what defines the feminine gender is dishonesty, passive aggression, and a disavowed addiction to sex and flirting. These make femininity fully a mental illness. So no one should ever feel bad if they dislike women, or feminine men, or femininity as an idea.
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Re: People still believe Gays are feminine. Are we?

Postby nimby » Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:47 pm

I repeat..
nimby wrote:Wow. I think you should have posted that one in the "Internalized Homophobia" thread. :shock:
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Re: People still believe Gays are feminine. Are we?

Postby Cajun » Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:30 am

Popcorn is now being distributed at the front door, free of charge - butter will be extra, however......... :lol:
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Re: People still believe Gays are feminine. Are we?

Postby matinee » Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:44 am

Cajun wrote:Popcorn is now being distributed at the front door, free of charge - butter will be extra, however......... :lol:


And I came for the butter!

Anyway ...

Most believe what they see on TV and that is we need to be OUT. Those that know us, know that there is a whole spectrum of outward behaviours. I happen to know some fems that would kick anybody's ass in a fight and the biggest "sissies" that are rather macho on the outside. Who's more fem? Why do we bother with these classifications? There also many straights that are fem. I stopped giving a damn. Life's too short.
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Re: People still believe Gays are feminine. Are we?

Postby catapult » Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:23 pm

matinee wrote:
Cajun wrote:Popcorn is now being distributed at the front door, free of charge - butter will be extra, however......... :lol:


And I came for the butter!

Anyway ...

Most believe what they see on TV and that is we need to be OUT. Those that know us, know that there is a whole spectrum of outward behaviours. I happen to know some fems that would kick anybody's ass in a fight and the biggest "sissies" that are rather macho on the outside. Who's more fem? Why do we bother with these classifications? There also many straights that are fem. I stopped giving a damn. Life's too short.


You're very right, matinee. But I think we do ourselves a lot of good by educating folks to exactly what you said. In fact, getting that knowledge out there is more important than marriage equality battles and acting up. If straight folks knew better - knew us better, we wouldn't have to get so political, fight so hard for equal rights and act up. Not knowing the truth about us is what divides us and them. It's what leads to discrimination, hate and lack of compassion.
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