Death on a soda cracker

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Re: Death on a soda cracker

Postby Earl Butz » Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:04 pm

Oh I think whining is good. At least it shows we care. I think we're talking to brick walls, though. :?

Ah the old money issue. That's probably the root of the problem, unfortunately. The types of businesses that advertise in gay magazines always seem to revolve around sex. Chat lines, porno movies, gay cruises, underwear, etc. It's lame and shallow and they probably don't want to go down that road.

I must admit I admire Tom's sense of morality. 8)
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Re: Death on a soda cracker

Postby solat » Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:46 am

It's always been peaks and troughs. One month it's busy, then there's a quiet spell.

I think the recession has taken a toll. If you're one of the 10% unemployed, you have other things on your mind.

Be good to plan an online anniversary. I'm sure the board's past its 10th. How about a 11/12th?
Must have been thousands through the board over these years. I still keep contact with several. If we pooled all our contacts, should be a good reunion!

And removing the RP13 thing. I'm not sure about that. You can't click anywhere on the net these days without big willys rearing their heads. I think this board provides a valuable service for those guys coming to terms with who they are, and what they want to do with their lives. There's a lot of wise heads here who are willing to give their experience. Porn would give the board a different focus.

Just my thoughts.
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Re: Death on a soda cracker

Postby nimby » Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:23 am

I think an anniversary thing would be a great idea. But absolutely not a porn sight, that would ruin this place. But a little more adult centric wouldn't hurt.
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Re: Death on a soda cracker

Postby Phoenix6570 » Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:43 am

The anniversary idea sounds great to me too. I think that would really help in the activity level of the site. This place definitely shouldn't be porn oriented at all, but I think a couple risque photos wouldn't be very harmful.
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Re: Death on a soda cracker

Postby buccoman » Sat Jan 23, 2010 8:57 am

I will always have a fond place in my heart for this place. I found it when I was in the midst of a divorce, and used the forums as part of my therapy. I don't even know what's happened to most of the people who befriended me during that time, but I guess that's the nature of these virtual places. Annonymity allows people to fade away easily, and on top of that, insofar as virtual places go, this place is a real antique. Without the sense of community that was once here, there's really not much reason to visit anymore. A ten year anniversary/reunion might be a lure to attract people back, at least for a moment...
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Re: Death on a soda cracker

Postby nimby » Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:02 pm

And see, I feel that sense of community NOW, with a lot of great people who are helping ME now, with stuff I'm going through. I'm glad you got what you needed from this place, when you needed it. But others have that same need now. Antique? Hardly. Compassion is rarely antique. Or is it? :shock:
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Re: Death on a soda cracker

Postby Schlodesss » Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:48 am

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I dunno guys, I am absent alot but lurk alot too... and just don't post because well, I just don't feel like i fit in with 99% of Gay guys, but thats MY issue, no on elses, but I still do come here almost daily. I don't think as a mod I have ever talked to down to or made someone inferior, because they were new, infact, before I realized what type of person he was, In the "what are you listening to right now?" thread, I remember welcoming that guy that was bothering Cloudy... he had just joined..

I try my best to be cordial and not be an asshole. Since the bots have pretty much cleared up there hasn't [that i can see] been much of anything real big lately [cept that guy bothering Cloudy] that has needed modding or deleting etc.

far as PG 13, I dunno, a lot of the car forums, have underground sections. I generally don't like that sort of thing, but how about an over 18 forum here? Proving someone is 18 is a whole nuther ball of wax, but if they consent to it????

I agree, this place is quiet and I used to really like coming here and spent a lot of time/nights on here in the past... I think I joined in 2001... lol.
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Re: Death on a soda cracker

Postby Earl Butz » Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:03 am

A snob is just someone who considers themself to be socially superior. Labelling yourself a moderator, and telling people they have disobeyed certain board rules, comes across as snobbish sometimes.

I think moderators should just delete posts that are offensive, and be done with it. Don't explain why, unless asked. ie. in the case of Butch, I would have deleted that garbage right away.
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Re: Death on a soda cracker

Postby nimby » Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:42 am

I think moderators are very important on a board. They help to keep everything at an appropriate level (and you guys do a great job, really!) If we didn'f have mods, a place like this could easily turn into the wild west. But I think we have to agree on what those appropriate levels are. At what level of appropriateness we want this place to be at. Porn, no. Naughty? sure, why not. There are already lots of places for youths to turn to for help that are dedicated just for them (with language moch more raunchier that here). And of course we will never turn them away. But this place should be for a more mature, straight acting gay man looking for more of a social community, or it will just shrivel up and die.
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Re: Death on a soda cracker

Postby batty » Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:54 pm

While not even close to Lou's presence, I've been here a loooong, long, long time. In fact it will be ten years this year! It has been a great resource dealing with my sexuality, especially when you're from a small town. Here's my two cents on this:

People come and go, and come back and leave again. You cannot control this, as people come and go for their own individual reasons. But if you think of this place as the online equivalent to a tavern, it will never be full all the time, nor will it be empty all the time.

I would really warn against lowering the standard of the content. What held this board together is its substance, not the eye-candy in the hunks section.

We have been quite fortunate in avoiding this board becoming a simple hookup zone or a dating site. But the moment you bring in smut, you'll have a exponential increase in members joining the board for the wrong reasons. There are tons of gay.com gaydar and the like elsewhere on the Web.

Ironically, I think the PG rating of the board ALLOWS us to have adult conversations about mature, adult topics (and I don't mean "adult" in the behind-the-curtains-at-the-video store type). Those who have been here a while will remember that "billy" set the threshold for the board in terms of what was acceptable visually for the board and that was "no visible bum crack". That was very contentious in itself, but it's now the part of the board's jurisprudence. As for the written content, I think that everyone seems quite comfortable in self censoring some words in their own posts as an acknowledgement that the word is bordeline but still socially-acceptable to a wide audience.
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Re: Death on a soda cracker

Postby Schlodesss » Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:12 am

Earl Butz wrote:

1]--Labelling yourself a moderator, and telling people they have disobeyed certain board rules, comes across as snobbish sometimes.

2]---I think moderators should just delete posts that are offensive, and be done with it. Don't explain why, unless asked. ie. in the case of Butch, I would have deleted that garbage right away.


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Earl..... I don't think I have ever come on and said "I am a moderator and if you don't listen you will suffer my wrath.. so obey the rules lowly citizens..". lol... I've tried to do my thing as low key as possible because I am not any different than you.. except I have the job of cleaning up "stuff" that happens..

Well, we are told to explain ourselves when moving a post or editing something out...... why....????

Well that leads to your last sentence that i'm going to adress... I used to do just that... if I found something that was unsatisfactory and against policies we were told by Tom to adhere to [NOT some stuff we made up because we thingk we are Gods :roll: ] i'd delete and it not say anything to the person who posted it... mainly because I don't have time for drama... well wholly phuck that created a whole nuther sh*t storm b/c then i'd be getting multiple PMs from unhappy people because a topic was removed that was indeed offensive to against Toms policies we were told to adhere to, but no explanation was left behind and the people involved were not notified as to why....

Can't please everyone and when I agreed to be a mod I agreed to what Tom asked to do... if that offends people then so be it. I have tried to be as tactful and polite as possible.

Earl, If you would like to step up and take my place i'd be willing to give it up due to how busy I have been. I'll still post here when I have time, but IMO you are a calm voice of reason and would make a good mod, and if you think you can do it how it should be done shoot a PM to Tom, because lately I am sure I have missed stuff I should have deleted [like the ass bothering Cloudy - I like Cloudy] simply because this is very busy time for me, so you'd be doing me a favor if you took my spot and I think you are a good guy for it b/c you are so level headed :)

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Re: Death on a soda cracker

Postby Earl Butz » Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:06 am

Well....truth be told I'm not sure I'd be that great of a moderator either. Certain topics here just don't interest me, so I don't read them.

Also, if I became a moderator it would be hypocritical since I've just outlined why I dislike the system the way it is now. But this thread has given me some idea of how it's a no win situation at times.

I guess what I'd like to see is an anonymous system. It would make the job easier for you guys, and eliminate the "snob" factor.
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Re: Death on a soda cracker

Postby Earl Butz » Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:46 am

Gimme a big kiss....smooch! :mrgreen:
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Re: Death on a soda cracker

Postby nimby » Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:52 am

Just don't c*m on him Earl. S/he finds it icky. :lol:
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Re: Death on a soda cracker

Postby nimby » Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:38 am

And the Mods come to the rescue again!!!

You guys did a bang up job very recently. Thank you very much. Perfect example why mods are very important. :D
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Re: Death on a soda cracker

Postby Marvinteck » Sat Nov 20, 2010 4:52 pm

I think this post still applies today so Ill chime in as an newby. I have been here for right around 3 weeks. Im not seeing very much activity and if a person does post something people dont respond to it. I know the view vs replies numbers can be quite deceiving however I think to many people are lurking and not participating. Its not very encouraging to new people when they post stuff and it gets viewed fifty times but only two people reply. I understand when a person reads a post they dont always have something to add to the conversation or have time to reply so they will move on without responding. Im guilty of it. However when other members are not posting new post there isnt really anything keeping the new people from leaving when they hear crickets as soon as they arrive to the site. This is just my 2 cents.
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Re: Death on a soda cracker

Postby Rico » Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:10 pm

That's a fair observation but there might be a simple explanation. This is a community that uses a message board format to communicate with each other. It's not like Facebook and especially not like IM or many of the other millions of hit-and-run places one can visit in cyberspace.

The pace here can be painfully slow, but more often than not, that's a good thing. Wouldn't you rather have a thoughtful reply to a serious question of yours, rather than a quick, IM-like "look-how-clever-I-can-be" smart-ass response? There are plenty of places offering that. I'll stick with the turtles here for now. :wink:
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Re: Death on a soda cracker

Postby Marvinteck » Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:26 pm

Rico wrote:That's a fair observation but there might be a simple explanation. This is a community that uses a message board format to communicate with each other. It's not like Facebook and especially not like IM or many of the other millions of hit-and-run places one can visit in cyberspace.

The pace here can be painfully slow, but more often than not, that's a good thing. Wouldn't you rather have a thoughtful reply to a serious question of yours, rather than a quick, IM-like "look-how-clever-I-can-be" smart-ass response? There are plenty of places offering that. I'll stick with the turtles here for now. :wink:


I would have to agree with you. I am an member of countless other forums besides this one to help keep myself occupied. I agree its a good thing that this place is slow and laid back. When a place gets to be to busy a person post gets buried amongst a sea of other post and people still dont respond to it.
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Re: Death on a soda cracker

Postby Rico » Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:53 pm

That's an excellent example about getting one's message lost amongst a sea of other posts in busier places. I often visit and sometimes post in political blogs. More often than not most threads are a series of either of clever one-liners or boilerplate speeches. Nobody seems to even read the post above, let alone respond thoughtfully to them. Every poster seems to have an agenda. This place is different because there's usually dialogue.
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Re: Death on a soda cracker

Postby DeckApe » Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:39 pm

And thoughtful dialogue, no less. I know there are recent posts going in the the 'bare my soul' forums that I haven't responded to; I feel that I don't have anything useful or helpful to say. Occasionally I will have a rather snarky thought but I'll squelch it rather than post it because, well, I don't need to be a tool.

Doesn't mean I won't drop a one-liner though. :lol:
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Re: Death on a soda cracker

Postby Ashpenaz » Sun Nov 21, 2010 2:30 pm

Feel free to add snarky comments to my bare my soul posts. I'll take anything! :?
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Re: Death on a soda cracker

Postby matinee » Mon Nov 22, 2010 2:29 am

One of the reasons my post count is so low. I don't bother responding unless I have something constructive and original to add.

// Just me or did we get a rush of new members in the past few weeks? Welcome all :)
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Re: Death on a soda cracker

Postby DeckApe » Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:29 pm

I don't think it's just you... there seems to be a lot of new talent here these days. I approve!
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