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Is the NAVY the gayest branch?

Postby Jay » Mon May 22, 2006 2:16 pm

I was wondering if the Navy is gayer than any other branch of the service. The reason I ask is aside from hearing that comment, I have an uncle who is flaming and he was in the Navy when he was younger.
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Postby RedRage00 » Mon May 22, 2006 2:31 pm

I think I read somewhere that the Navy has the highest number of discharges for homosexuality. I could be wrong.

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Postby Brandon » Mon May 22, 2006 3:43 pm

That may be true... does anyone have any data on that?

I would guess that the Marines have the highest number of closet cases though... My ex was a Marine and had a lot of experience at Campen in CA.

I never hear much about gays in the Air Force. Anyone have any experience or data on that branch?
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Postby RedRage00 » Mon May 22, 2006 3:59 pm

Brandon wrote:That may be true... does anyone have any data on that?

I would guess that the Marines have the highest number of closet cases though... My ex was a Marine and had a lot of experience at Campen in CA.

I never hear much about gays in the Air Force. Anyone have any experience or data on that branch?


I know a lot of gay air force guys...but then I know a lot of gay military men b/c of all the bases here in SA.

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Postby Donovan » Mon May 22, 2006 8:13 pm

RedRage00 wrote:a lot of gay military men b/c of all the bases here in SA.


Is that why you want to stay in San Antonio ? Lucky B**tard !! :lol:
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Postby Donovan » Mon May 22, 2006 8:17 pm

By the way, when I was at the Horton Plaza (shopping Center) with my friends in San Diego, I saw a VERY YOUNG, CUTE AND HOT Navy sailor. It always made my heart pumping faster when I am in a city that has a military base.
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Postby Gaydudelaf » Mon May 22, 2006 8:44 pm

Donovan wrote:By the way, when I was at the Horton Plaza (shopping Center) with my friends in San Diego, I saw a VERY YOUNG, CUTE AND HOT Navy sailor. It always made my heart pumping faster when I am in a city that has a military base.


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Postby selective_soldier » Mon May 22, 2006 10:22 pm

Branch Discharges Ratio
USMC 60 1 out of 3,000
Army 206 1 out of 2,400
Air Force 282 1 out of 1,400
Navy 302 1 out of 1,400



7 Famous Gay Men Who Served in the US Navy
Craig Claiborne (b. 1920), New York Times food critic
Rick Donovan (b.1963), porn star
Allan Gurganus (b. 1947), writer
Rock Hudson (1925-1985), actor
Armistead Maupin (b. 1944), writer
Harvey Milk (1930-1978), politician and Gay rights activist
Frank O'Hara (1926-1966), poet

2 Famous Gay Men Who Served in the US Air Force
Leonard Matlovich (1943-1988), gay rights activist
Larry Townsend (b. 1935), writer

17 Famous Gay or Bisexual Men Who Served in the US Army
Samuel Barber (1910-1981), composer
James Beard (1903-1985), food connoisseur and writer
William S. Burroughs (b. 1913), writer
John Cheever (1912-1982), writer
George Cukor (1899-1983), film director
Malcolm Forbes, Sr., (1919-1990), businessman and magazine publisher
Andrew Holleran (b. 1946), writer
James Ivory (b. 1928), film director
Larry Kramer (b. 1935), writer
Rod McKuen (b. 1933), poet
James Merrill (1926-1995), poet
Merle Miller (1919-1986), writer
Peter Orlovsky (b. 1933), poet
Rev. Troy Perry (b. 1940), founder Metropolitan Community Church
John Rechy (b. 1934), writer
Gore Vidal (b. 1925), writer
Dr. Tom Waddell (1937-1987), decathlon athlete and gay rights activist

3 Famous Gay or Bisexual Men Who Served in the US Marine Corps
Dave Connors (1945-1985), porn star
Tyrone Power (1913-1958), actor
Oliver Sipple (1942-1989), Gay Marine ho thwarted the 1975 assassination attempt by Sara Jane Moore on President Ford in San Francisco
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Postby RedRage00 » Tue May 23, 2006 8:26 am

Donovan wrote:
RedRage00 wrote:a lot of gay military men b/c of all the bases here in SA.


Is that why you want to stay in San Antonio ? Lucky B**tard !! :lol:


No, I'm moving soon! :P
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Postby Jay » Tue May 23, 2006 9:16 am

Selective Soldier: Thanks for that list!

Can I add one more to your Marines list?

Jeff Key is an anti-war activist and former Marine who wrote and performed in a one man show.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 5151511340
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Postby JakeMIke » Tue May 23, 2006 9:38 am

Joe, is your place up for rent?

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Postby Donovan » Tue May 23, 2006 5:36 pm

RedRage00 wrote:
Donovan wrote:
RedRage00 wrote:a lot of gay military men b/c of all the bases here in SA.


Is that why you want to stay in San Antonio ? Lucky B**tard !! :lol:


No, I'm moving soon! :P

To my apartment in Columbus, OH? :lol:
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Postby Gaydudelaf » Tue May 23, 2006 6:12 pm

selective_soldier wrote: Branch Discharges Ratio
USMC 60 1 out of 3,000
Army 206 1 out of 2,400
Air Force 282 1 out of 1,400
Navy 302 1 out of 1,400



7 Famous Gay Men Who Served in the US Navy
Craig Claiborne (b. 1920), New York Times food critic
Rick Donovan (b.1963), porn star
Allan Gurganus (b. 1947), writer
Rock Hudson (1925-1985), actor
Armistead Maupin (b. 1944), writer
Harvey Milk (1930-1978), politician and Gay rights activist
Frank O'Hara (1926-1966), poet

2 Famous Gay Men Who Served in the US Air Force
Leonard Matlovich (1943-1988), gay rights activist
Larry Townsend (b. 1935), writer

17 Famous Gay or Bisexual Men Who Served in the US Army
Samuel Barber (1910-1981), composer
James Beard (1903-1985), food connoisseur and writer
William S. Burroughs (b. 1913), writer
John Cheever (1912-1982), writer
George Cukor (1899-1983), film director
Malcolm Forbes, Sr., (1919-1990), businessman and magazine publisher
Andrew Holleran (b. 1946), writer
James Ivory (b. 1928), film director
Larry Kramer (b. 1935), writer
Rod McKuen (b. 1933), poet
James Merrill (1926-1995), poet
Merle Miller (1919-1986), writer
Peter Orlovsky (b. 1933), poet
Rev. Troy Perry (b. 1940), founder Metropolitan Community Church
John Rechy (b. 1934), writer
Gore Vidal (b. 1925), writer
Dr. Tom Waddell (1937-1987), decathlon athlete and gay rights activist

3 Famous Gay or Bisexual Men Who Served in the US Marine Corps
Dave Connors (1945-1985), porn star
Tyrone Power (1913-1958), actor
Oliver Sipple (1942-1989), Gay Marine ho thwarted the 1975 assassination attempt by Sara Jane Moore on President Ford in San Francisco


Hey Hey! I knew you would show up on the scene. But do those statistics mean that the branch is gay or that they are not discrete?
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Postby Gaydudelaf » Tue May 23, 2006 6:13 pm

RedRage00 wrote:No, I'm moving soon! :P


You movin to Minneapolis?
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Postby patroclus79 » Wed May 24, 2006 6:16 am

Oddly enough, this reminded me of when recruiters were calling me every day.

Army: "You interested?" "I'm gay." *click*
Marines: "You interested?" "I'm gay." *click*
Air Force: "You interested?" "I'm gay." *click*
Navy: "You interested?" "I'm gay." "Well hell, son, that doesn't stop us."
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Postby skanedd » Wed May 24, 2006 12:03 pm

The Marines joke that the motto of the Navy Corpsmen is "Don't ask, don't tell, don't have to." ...or was that the Air Force? They certainly seem to have more than their fair share of poofs.
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Postby Donovan » Wed May 24, 2006 2:00 pm

patroclus79 wrote:Oddly enough, this reminded me of when recruiters were calling me every day.

Army: "You interested?" "I'm gay." *click*
Marines: "You interested?" "I'm gay." *click*
Air Force: "You interested?" "I'm gay." *click*
Navy: "You interested?" "I'm gay." "Well hell, son, that doesn't stop us."

Haahaa, I can't believe your recruiter said that.
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Postby Guinness Fan » Wed May 24, 2006 2:27 pm

The only traditions of the Royal Navy are rum, sodomy and the lash. Churchill's assistant, Anthony Montague-Browne said that although Churchill had not uttered these words, he wished he had.
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Postby RedRage00 » Wed May 24, 2006 4:40 pm

Gaydudelaf wrote:
RedRage00 wrote:No, I'm moving soon! :P


You movin to Minneapolis?


I don't know. I'm planning to move from SA sometime next year after I graduate! I probably have about 1.5 years left in SA.

Ok, now back to your regulary scheduled program! :P
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Postby Gaydudelaf » Wed May 24, 2006 6:12 pm

skanedd wrote:The Marines joke that the motto of the Navy Corpsmen is "Don't ask, don't tell, don't have to." ...or was that the Air Force? They certainly seem to have more than their fair share of poofs.


When I was in college we used to tease the Air Force ROTC guys by saying "AIR FORCE! AIM HIGH" while making a jerk off motion.
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Postby Gaydudelaf » Wed May 24, 2006 6:12 pm

RedRage00 wrote:
Gaydudelaf wrote:
RedRage00 wrote:No, I'm moving soon! :P


You movin to Minneapolis?


I don't know. I'm planning to move from SA sometime next year after I graduate! I probably have about 1.5 years left in SA.

Ok, now back to your regulary scheduled program! :P


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Postby Sweeet » Thu May 25, 2006 2:32 pm

Everything about Navy uniforms are gay. Those tight blud jean bellbottoms (which I still have), screamed. They were made for package checking (I know cause I did). Name over the right back pocket of the pants (to replace the hanky). AND THE DRESS BLUES. Traditional with a hint of S&M. Thirteen buttons in the front and a (discipline) string in to back so your buddy can help you get (un)dressed. I'd always look for someone who I could do (tie him up) and we'd do eachother. Don't forget the doggy bowl for a cover just in case you're feeling a little submissive. Oh yes, first rank, "Seaman".
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Postby selective_soldier » Thu May 25, 2006 4:12 pm

Sweeet wrote:Everything about Navy uniforms are gay. Those tight blud jean bellbottoms (which I still have), screamed. They were made for package checking (I know cause I did). Name over the right back pocket of the pants (to replace the hanky). AND THE DRESS BLUES. Traditional with a hint of S&M. Thirteen buttons in the front and a (discipline) string in to back so your buddy can help you get (un)dressed. I'd always look for someone who I could do (tie him up) and we'd do eachother. Don't forget the doggy bowl for a cover just in case you're feeling a little submissive. Oh yes, first rank, "Seaman".



I was tickled as I noticed an absence of a comment from both you & Smitty :lol:
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Postby Smitty » Thu May 25, 2006 6:24 pm

selective_soldier wrote:
Sweeet wrote:Everything about Navy uniforms are gay. Those tight blud jean bellbottoms (which I still have), screamed. They were made for package checking (I know cause I did). Name over the right back pocket of the pants (to replace the hanky). AND THE DRESS BLUES. Traditional with a hint of S&M. Thirteen buttons in the front and a (discipline) string in to back so your buddy can help you get (un)dressed. I'd always look for someone who I could do (tie him up) and we'd do eachother. Don't forget the doggy bowl for a cover just in case you're feeling a little submissive. Oh yes, first rank, "Seaman".



I was tickled as I noticed an absence of a comment from both you & Smitty :lol:

LOL. I've been reading. :wink:

There was NO hint of homosexual activity evident in my four years of service - except the one guy who got busted giving head in a Chula Vista bar parking lot. Though the homo humor was so sick people turn away from me in disgust if I try to tell them about it. :P

There were a LOT of single, alcoholic lifers in the Navy. I always wondered. Off base, there was never a problem finding like minded sailors. Don't know the percentages.

The uniform is unusual, true, but very practical. Bell bottoms allow trousers to be removed over boots. Once thoruoghly wet, they can be used a a lifesaving floatation device. Tie a knot at the bottom of each pant leg, hold the trousers over your head and quickly pull them down into the water trapping as much air as possible. Tuck one leg under each arm and you have a life preserver.

The Donald Duck collar was originally separate from the jumper top. It protected the uniform from long hair that had been matted with tar. There's a reason sailors are called Tars. :wink:

The white hat also has a purpose. It is water tight and can be used to bail water.

The traditional uniform folds neatly into a small square that presses appropriate creases into itself. Space is a consideration at sea. On my destroyer, I had a locker that was two foot square and less that a foot deep to hold all my gear. On a larger ship, my locker was under my rack (bunk) the same size as the rack but maybe only six inches deep. Well designed uniforms that stowed in a small amount of space were a must.

After discharge, I served one year in the Reserves. I was issued a new uniform which included a doublebreasted sport coat and a flat hat. What a stupid idea! How were we expected to store these things? It's not as if we had closets.

For sexy, you must be talking about gaberdines - which were not Navy issue. Acceptable for going ashore but not for standing military inspections. Yes, we had them tailored tight and we looked hot. :P
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