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Jane Fonda....traitor ?

Postby dracuscalico » Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:53 pm

Here is an email, I've pasted "as is", that someone sent me regarding Jane Fonda's actions in the Vietnam War.

Long after Jane Fonda is dead people will wonder how she did what she did and was never put on trial. Some thought being married to Tom Haydn was punishment enough. Many thought there was no such thing as enough, nor was there anything like justice around.


YES SHE WAS A TRAITOR..!!

Hanoi Jane sucking up to North Vietnamese Communists
As they beat and torchured U.S. Troops.


In Memory of
my brother-in-law
LT. C. Thomsen Wieland
who spent 100 days at the Hanoi Hilton


She really was a Traitor




IF YOU NEVER FORWARDED
ANYTHING IN YOUR LIFE FORWARD THIS




SO THAT EVERYONE WILL KNOW!!!!!!
She really was a traitor

A TRAITOR IS ABOUT TO BE HONORED
KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA




This is for all the kids born in the 70's who do
not remember, and didn't have to bear the
burden that our fathers, mothers and older
brothers and sisters had to bear.




Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the
'100 Women of the Century.'




BY BARBRA WALTERS




Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still
countless others have never known how Ms.
Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country,
but specific men who served and sacrificed
during Vietnam





The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot




The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat.




In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF
Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison
the ' Hanoi Hilton..'




Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell,
cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was
ordered to describe for a visiting American
'Peace Activist' the 'lenient and humane
treatment' he'd received.




He spat at Ms. Fonda,




was clubbed and was dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward
on to the camp Commandant 's feet which
sent that officer berserk




In 1978, the Air Force Colonel still suffered from
double vision (which permanently ended his
flying career) from the Commandant's frenzied
application of a wooden baton.




From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the
47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the
'Hanoi Hilton',,, the first three of which his
family only knew he was 'missing in action'.
His wife lived on faith that he was still alive.
His group, too, got the cleaned-up, fed and
get word to the world that they were alive
and still survived. Each man secreted a tiny
piece of paper, with his Social Security Number
on it, in the palm of his hand...




When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a
cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each
man's hand and asking little encouraging
snippets like: 'Aren't you sorry you bombed
babies?' and 'Are you grateful for the humane
treatment from your benevolent captors?'
Believing this HAD to be an act, they each
palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the
end of the line and once the camera stopped
rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs,
she turned to the officer in charge and handed
him all the little pieces of paper.




Three men died from the subsequent beatings.
Colonel Carrigan was almost number four
but he survived, which is the only reason we
know of her actions that day.




I was a civilian economic development advisor
in Vietnam , and was captured by the North
Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in
1968, and held prisoner for over 5 years.




I spent 27 months in solitary confinement; one
year in a cage in Cambodia ; and one year
in a 'black box' in Hanoi .
My North Vietnamese captors deliberately
poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a
nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South
Vietnam , whom I buried in the jungle near the
Cambodian border.
At one time, I weighed only about 90 lbs.
(My normal weight is 170 lbs.)





We were Jane Fonda's 'war criminals.'




When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi , I was asked by
the camp communist political officer if I would
be willing to meet with her.




I said yes, for I wanted to tell her about the real
treatment we POWs received... and how
different it was from the treatment purported by
the North Vietnamese, and parroted by her as
'humane and lenient.'




Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky
floor on my knees, with my arms outstretched
with a large steel weights placed on my hands,
and beaten with a bamboo cane.




I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda
soon after I was released.




I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV.
She never did answer me.




These first-hand experiences do not exemplify
someone who should be honored as part of '100 Years of Great Women.'
Lest we forget...' 100 Years of Great Women'
should never include a traitor whose hands are
covered with the blood of so many patriots.




There are few things I have strong visceral
reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in
blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many
people as you possibly can.
It will eventually end up on her computer and
she needs to know that we will never forget.
RONALD D. SAMPSON, CMSgt, USAF
716 Maintenance Squadron, Chief of
Maintenance
DSN: 875-6431
COMM: 883-6343






PLEASE HELP BY SENDING THIS TO
EVERYONE IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK. IF
ENOUGH PEOPLE SEE THIS MAYBE HER
STATUS WILL CHANGE
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Postby devilnuts » Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:10 pm

Before passing this stuff on, you should do some research. Some is true, some is not.

http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.asp
Supporting the troops shouldn't stop at the battlefield.
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Postby dracuscalico » Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:18 pm

devilnuts wrote:Before passing this stuff on, you should do some research. Some is true, some is not.

http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.asp



I wouldn't pass something like this on without finding out what you guys in the know think about it. :wink:

Thank you for the link !


I don't have a military background, but looking from the outside in, I do think it is unfair to blame soldiers who are drafted against their will and forced to follow orders, for their actions as though they were mercenaries who volunteered to slaughter the innocent for kicks. The bulk of the criticism should go to those who are creating the situation and placing the soldiers in it in the first place.
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Postby devilnuts » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:03 pm

I know there are some out there that support the men and women (past and present) in uniform more than I do, but I have yet to meet one in person. While the actions are deplorable, one needs to remember that many, many, many U.S. citizens treated our soldiers in much the same manner. (ain't free speech grand?) One also needs to realize that spreading mis-information does not help either. (ain't free speech grand?)
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Postby JakeMIke » Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:40 am

Whether you like Jane Fonda or despise her, I don't understand the fixation with her or what she did back in the Sixties. I respect all current and former military, but she is only a small footnote in the big continuum that is history.
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Postby Bramasole_iowa » Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:24 pm

I like Hanoi John better than Hanoi Jane.
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Postby nimby » Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:51 pm

Hanoi Jane? Top 100 women of the century? Really? It's just another example of how f**ked up the world is. In Canada they just gave the Order of Canada to Dr. Henry Morgentaler. Big mistake. Now no one wants to be a member of THAT club.
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