CA Supremes: Split decision and a legal morass to follow

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CA Supremes: Split decision and a legal morass to follow

Postby furface » Tue May 26, 2009 1:01 pm

The CA Supreme Court today issued its ruling on Prop 8 (sometimes known as Prop H8). The ruled against the theory this was a revision, not an amendment, to the state constitution. Therefore, the November initiative stands - marriage equality is abolished in CA.

However; the 18K+ marriages performed under their prior decision are valid. So all the folks who were married during that window are still legally married under CA law.

So now you have straights who can marry at will, including serially. Some gays who are married, but if they divorce, neither party may remarry a partner of the same sex. And the rest of the gay folks who can't marry (for now).

Seems equal to me. :roll:

And those who are legally married are eligible for all marriage benefits under CA statute, but none of the Federal benefits/protections. Family law courts in CA are in for an interesting time.

One bright note is that almost immediately upon the court's announcement Courage Campaign and Equality California announced ads and a drive to get an initiative on the ballot for 2010 to reverse Prop 8. It has also been suggested that there be a state constitutional convention to revise the initiative process to preclude warring propositions every other year.

Ain't the world of politics grand? :?
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Postby foxeyes2 » Tue May 26, 2009 2:07 pm

Words fail me anymore when it comes to this. It is wrong.
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Postby nimby » Tue May 26, 2009 3:04 pm

I just heard it on the news. Shocking to say the least :shock: . One more reason for ya'll to move to Canada, preferably Toronto.

It would make SA get togethers much easier. :D
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Re: CA Supremes: Split decision and a legal morass to follow

Postby madsglen » Tue May 26, 2009 3:32 pm

furface wrote:One bright note is that almost immediately upon the court's announcement Courage Campaign and Equality California announced ads and a drive to get an initiative on the ballot for 2010 to reverse Prop 8. It has also been suggested that there be a state constitutional convention to revise the initiative process to preclude warring propositions every other year.


Guess we'll see how that goes. Their initiative process (and that of Washington State) has sometimes been a very good and useful tool but has also led to some awful messes both fiscally and socially. From what I've read and have heard so far, revisions to California's constitution could be necessary to address a number of issues with the budgeting and legistlative process. And the initiative process seems to have taken on a life of it's own. Maybe it is time to take a hard look at how easy it is to get an proposition on the ballot, the 'vetting process' for the language used, which election cycle can or should be used and how/when an issue could be brought before the legislature vs. the electorate.
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Re: CA Supremes: Split decision and a legal morass to follow

Postby backpacker » Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:02 pm

Same-Sex Marriage in Cali: Prop 8 Closing Arguments
Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20100616/u ... 9199692900

Decision to follow. Was interesting to note that the republican judge is gay so if he sides with the religious groups, he could be seen as a traitor by us but if he sides with us then the religious nuts will surely cry foul. What to do, what to do.
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