Today in Michele Bachmann

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Today in Michele Bachmann

Postby stevestr » Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:01 pm

Oh man this is going to be an interesting campaign season leading up to election '12.

Today's "gem":

Michele Compares Here "Spirit" to that of local hometown "hero" John Wayne [Gacy]:
http://www.towleroad.com/2011/06/gacy.html
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Re: Today in Michele Bachmann

Postby furface » Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:37 pm

Is her district in MN populated by zombies?! You'd have to be brain dead to have listened to her even once and then voted for her.

The only thing I can figure is she's especially malleable and very easily controlled which must be what makes her attractive to the Koch Bros. and the Rethutglican leadership.
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Re: Today in Michele Bachmann

Postby Rico » Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:01 pm

furface wrote:Is her district in MN populated by zombies?! You'd have to be brain dead to have listened to her even once and then voted for her.

The only thing I can figure is she's especially malleable and very easily controlled which must be what makes her attractive to the Koch Bros. and the Rethutglican leadership.

It's not just the MN population....it seems that nearly half of the American electorate has been Zombified. Zany Bachmann quotes are already outnumbering those of G.W. Bush. My favorite is Michele Bachmann's proposed solution to unemployment:

"If we took away the minimum wage -- if conceivably it was gone -- we could potentially virtually wipe out unemployment completely because we would be able to offer jobs at whatever level." Michele Bachmann, Jan. 2005

So long middle class! It was nice knowin' ya'.
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Re: Today in Michele Bachmann

Postby madsglen » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:46 pm

I get the impression that yes, she's "easily malleable" (read: gullible) and at the very least is not very well served by whoever is encouraging her or by her own staff. For someone who seems to be able to bring in campaign cash one would think at the very least she'd be able to employ a fact checker. Makes me think she and her campaign staff live by the adage "I read it on a blog on the internet, so it must be true!". And even when she's so easily (and frequently) caught in "liar, liar, pants on fire" statements the rebuttals don't gain much traction or get attention. Sadly, the longer she's out there doing what she does the more people seem to like her. Maybe it's just for the entertainment factor. And even more sadly, the other candidates are going to let her go on because they benefit (to some degree) from the misinformation. At this point they don't have much choice, either, since they'd end up having to look like they're attacking her. Think the Republican party is afraid to pull the plug on her due to her rabid tea-party support?
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Re: Today in Michele Bachmann

Postby Rico » Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:09 pm

madsglen wrote:Think the Republican party is afraid to pull the plug on her due to her rabid tea-party support?

Yes, and good analysis of Bachmann by the way. I think it would be a mistake to go after her based on her lack of historical knowledge or intelligence. Like other Republicans of her ilk, she's most vulnerable if attacked for her hypocrisy. Her family benefited from huge government farm subsidies. The business that she and her husband owned took took government funds to train their employees. Add to that the pork spending that she brought to her home district and the case may be closed on her. IOW...I doubt she'll pass the scrutiny given to most presidential candidates.
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Re: Today in Michele Bachmann

Postby madsglen » Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:04 pm

One would hope she'll get hung up in the normal scrutiny candidates (appear to) get from the electorate but I'm not so sure just yet. She'll get as much traction as her fans give her and as much rope as she wants over time. This early out it's tough to tell, but also a bit fascinating. Sadly, there doesn't seem to be any real interest anywhere for moderates (do they really exist any more?) from either party. Just today the media gets skewered for trying to pin her down on certain statements (pertaining to the "founding fathers and their work to eradicate slavery" - which they actually kicked down the road for future generations to tackle) and got an apology from Fox News (of all places) for asking (in an admittedly bad way) if she was a "flake".

I grew up watching Illinois and Chicago politics (where politicians' sense of entitlement is legendary, the 'machine' still rules and a fair number get "Do not pass GO. Go straight to jail" cards). And spent time in Minnesota (which has become a place I don't recognize much anymore, at least politically - See Jesse Ventura, Michelle Bachmann and a number of others). And have lived for the past couple of decades in Washington (where nothing really gets done, especially in "process oriented" Seattle - damn hippies). So all of this is fascinating, disturbing and disheartening at the same time. I grew up a "dirt farmer" (not the rich kind), but my Dad had retired around the time people got paid to take acres out of production and subsidies became a way of life. The idea that we would borrow money to fund something without having any way to pay for it (think at least two decade-long wars, drug programs, etc.) would have appalled Dad and earlier generations. Just like the idea anyone would be allowed to borrow funds to buy something that it was blatantly obvious he/she couldn't afford. The small-town bankers where I grew up wouldn't laugh at you (too polite and not a small-town way to treat people), but the 'no' would have been quick and to the point.
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Re: Today in Michele Bachmann

Postby Rico » Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:03 pm

madsglen wrote:One would hope she'll get hung up in the normal scrutiny candidates (appear to) get from the electorate but I'm not so sure just yet. ...

For some reason hypocrisy isn't the "sin" it used to be. It's as if politicians don't care anymore about taking one position publicly one day, and then behaving completely contrary to that position on another day.

The Republican apoplexy over deficit spending is just one example. For two terms of Bush the Dumbass in control of the White House, with Republican majorities in Congress for much of the time, and two wars not paid for, and huge tax cuts (also not paid for), and a Medicare prescription drug bill (also not paid for)....no Republicans seemed to notice or mind. Apparently, they have figured out that the American people have an attention span and memory as short as a sneeze. Bastards!
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Re: Today in Michele Bachmann

Postby Earl Butz » Thu Jul 14, 2011 5:33 am

As if she isn't a big enough nutjob, her husband is even worse. He runs a straight camp at his church to reform gays from their satanic ways. "These barbarians merely need some education and discipline to rid themselves of their sinful lifestyle" he claims.

And she wants to outlaw pornography!

These two make Bush Junior and Sarah Palin look like Rhodes scholars... :P
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Re: Today in Michele Bachmann

Postby nimby » Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:23 pm

One thing I've always wondered. Where do these straight camps find their clients? I've never yet met a gay man who wants to be reformed. And how successful do these camps think they are?
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Re: Today in Michele Bachmann

Postby furface » Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:03 pm

They get their 'clients' (victims, more accurately) from the ranks of the churches they troll. They are usually closeted men who desperately want to belong to the "happy family of Jeebus" and believe that they somehow chose Teh Gayz. Societal pressure and family pressure to conform is a very powerful force.

The vast, vast majority of men who'll tell ya they're gay are OUT and basically immune to the pressure of the ex-gay industry.

As to their success rate...... Some claim up to 90% :shock: Many use 30% as a general 'cure' rate. The truth is no one really knows as their stats are cooked, there is usually no follow up over time, and they are professional liars and grifters.

No reputable professional association in medicine, physiology, or counseling accepts the 'reparative' therapy model as viable and warns it may, in fact, be harmful.
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Re: Today in Michele Bachmann

Postby Kori » Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:48 am

Regarding Mrs. Bachmann, I always enjoyed her tirade about swine flu being caused by the Democrats ("I find it interesting that it was back in the 1970s that the swine flu broke out then under another Democrat president Jimmy Carter. And I'm not blaming this on President Obama, I just think it's an interesting coincidence").

Toward the "anti-gay camps," it's unfortunate that many homosexuals—especially children—need to endure (effectively) psychological torture. I read an interesting anecdote a while ago depicting a teenage girl's experience at aforementioned camps (http://www.reddit.com/r/troubledteens/c ... at_a_utah/). My first response to the article was sadness with humanity, rather than disgust. Do we really dislike homosexuality this much? The good news is that a prominent group funding these camps (such as the one in the URL provided), W.W.A.S.P. (World Wide Association of Specialty Programs), was successfully sued by a then-patient (is that what you would classify those going to the camp as?). According to Google, there are several more coming on the way.
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