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Canadian election!

Postby Earl Butz » Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:03 pm

Wow I bet this topic will be boring! :P

Canada goes to the polls Monday May 2! The Conservative minority government lost a non confidence vote, which legally means they have to call an erection.

The results will be exactly the same as the last election according to the polls, and no one can explain why we are wasting 300 million bucks for an unnecessary election.

:roll: :P :evil: :| :? :lol:
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Re: Canadian election!

Postby Guinness Fan » Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:48 pm

Earl, Earl, Earl,,,It's not about the 300 million bucks ~ political hacks anywhere in the world can drop that in a heartbeat (well, here in the US anyway)...It's all about the sex-appeal.

I know diddly-squat about Canadian elections or candidates, but I'd start a grass roots effort to get Nicolas Dufour elected to ANY office...MP, PM, dog catcher, lifeguard at the local pool...

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Re: Canadian election!

Postby olywaguy » Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:14 pm

Well, I pay some attention to Canadian television via CBC.

Apparently, a minority government is not working so the current prime minister wants to ally himself with one of the party's in order to get a majority government in order to get things done...just like England did.

So, the Canadians have a new election. But, according to Earl, nothing will change...that's probably true.
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Re: Canadian election!

Postby crankycurmudgeon » Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:00 pm

Earl Butz wrote:Wow I bet this topic will be boring! :P

...legally means they have to call an erection.

The results will be exactly the same ... and no one can explain why ....



How exactly do they do that?
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Re: Canadian election!

Postby nimby » Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:07 pm

We vote for the guy who steered Canada through some of the scariest financial waters in history virtually unscathed, and ignore the snivelling, self absorbed eletist who wants Canada as his personal trophy.
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Re: Canadian election!

Postby LtotheP » Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:43 pm

nimby wrote:We vote for the guy who steered Canada through some of the scariest financial waters in history virtually unscathed, and ignore the snivelling, self absorbed eletist who wants Canada as his personal trophy.


Oh please, the only reason we have weathered this recession is because of our resources based economy and much more conservative banking - in part due to regulation brought in by the libs. Harper wasted billions of dollars with no direction with his stimulus (Im not again the stimulus, just the fact that they didnt have any over meta direction to it (ie - helping to green our economy)). He didnt even think we were going to be in a recession, and if it was for Dion and Layton's coalition talk he wouldnt have came back with a much stronger stimulus.
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Re: Canadian election!

Postby nimby » Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:59 pm

Whoops! Did I come accross as a supporter of Harper? My bad. Right now neither of the big three are deserving of my vote, but no mistake, I will vote.
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Re: Canadian election!

Postby Earl Butz » Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:47 am

Wow big news....the Communists (NDP) will form the official opposition according to the latest polls! The Liberals, our version of the Democrats, have a total dullard for a leader who has all the sex appeal of a 5 pound bag of fertilizer.

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Re: Canadian election!

Postby nimby » Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:13 pm

Just wait till this DILF heads up the Liberal party. Yumm!!!!

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Justin Trudeau. Till then...
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Re: Canadian election!

Postby olywaguy » Sun May 01, 2011 9:48 pm

So, are the Canadian members of the Board ready for tomorrow's election? Have you made your choice yet?
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Re: Canadian election!

Postby olywaguy » Mon May 02, 2011 10:29 pm

I have never seen a Canadian election before...all the colors:

Blue = Conservative Party (Tories) = Prime Minister Stephen Harper
Orange = New Democratic Party = Jack Layton
Red = Liberal Party = Michael Ignatieff
Aqua = Bloc Quebecois = Gilles Duceppe

The Conservative Party has a pretty big lead over the New Democratic Party who has never ended up on top two...its always been third so this is a very big accomplishment for them.

The Liberal Party lost 44 seats. A very bad defeat for them. Ignatieff is conceding as we speak. Not only that, he's lagging behind for his own seat in Parliament.

Duceppe from Bloc Quebecois has lost his seat as well.
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Re: Canadian election!

Postby olywaguy » Mon May 02, 2011 10:43 pm

There is a Green candidate actually leading for a seat in Saanich-Gulf Islands in BC. Elizabeth May manages to win the seat. She is the very first Green candidate in North America to ever get elected.
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Re: Canadian election!

Postby UnRepublicanstraightactor » Mon May 02, 2011 11:07 pm

Earl Butz wrote:Wow I bet this topic will be boring! :P


Think again! :D


nimby wrote:Just wait till this DILF heads up the Liberal party. Yumm!!!!

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After tonight, he is a hell of a lot closer to being Grit party leader!



olywaguy wrote:There is a Green candidate actually leading for a seat in Saanich-Gulf Islands in BC. Elizabeth May manages to win the seat. She is the very first Green candidate in North America to ever get elected.


If you're talking about federal elections, yes she would be. But three Green state legislators have been elected in the US, altho two out of those three switched to Democrats not long afterwards, as well as a fourth that was a Dem that switched to Green and was defeated for reelection.




Very interesting election, tho!
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Re: Canadian election!

Postby nimby » Tue May 03, 2011 8:50 am

Wow! what exciting times. PC majority. Liberals are the lowest they've ever been. NDP the highest. Iggy is finished. And Justin is a rising star. 61% voter turn out. It's going to be an interesting 4 years for Canada.
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Re: Canadian election!

Postby Rico » Tue May 03, 2011 6:08 pm

nimby wrote:Wow! what exciting times. PC majority. Liberals are the lowest they've ever been. NDP the highest. Iggy is finished. And Justin is a rising star. 61% voter turn out. It's going to be an interesting 4 years for Canada.

I'm a newbie at Canadian politics, but from what I can figure out, it seems that Canada's political structure will now mirror the U.S. We have Republicans (conservatives) and Democrats (conservative-lites). You have the Conservatives and the NDP (conservative-lites). Liberals have pretty much been discredited in all of North America. Maybe they deserve it. But it's only temporary because sooner or later the working classes they will figure out that they've been played for fools. Fighting amongst one another for leftovers and scraps, they all think that the Conservatives and the NDP have their own group interest at heart and are against the other poor slobs. It's a cruel joke.

Like you said, it's going to be interesting.
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Re: Canadian election!

Postby nimby » Tue May 03, 2011 7:36 pm

Don't be so quick to count the liberals down and out. They failed because of Iggy's arrogance. This was more of a protest win against him because we all know that Iggy was behinnd a coalition government. Ignatieff had no right being here. He was dropped into a Toronto seat and played dirty to hold on to it. Once they bring in a popular leader (keep your eye on Justin Trudeau) they'll be back in the game. NDP are more socialist than conservative lites and I'm amazed that they moved up so much.
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Re: Canadian election!

Postby olywaguy » Tue May 03, 2011 8:29 pm

They were able to move up due to the support of Quebec. Those votes went from Bloc Quebecois to the NDP. Now, the QB doesn't qualify as a party now that they lost about 44 seats are left with 3 0r 4 seats. Basically, the QB is gone...and the NDP killed them. Now, the NDP has to cater to the former QB supporters. It will be interesting to see how that will develop.
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Re: Canadian election!

Postby Earl Butz » Wed May 04, 2011 5:28 am

Gee I'm impressed that non Canadians care about us. :P

The NDP are actually way more liberal than the Liberals. They are socialists! People in Quebec voted for them as a protest vote. I think they will regret it....alot of them are amateurs! College students, teenagers and one woman who spent half the campaign in Las Vegas and doesn't even speak French!

I sort of feel sorry for the Liberals....they are a boring bunch but a little smarter than the NDP. I guess they need some time to regroup and figure out why nobody likes them.
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Re: Canadian election!

Postby UnRepublicanstraightactor » Wed May 04, 2011 11:31 am

Rico wrote:the NDP (conservative-lites).


Wrong. The New Democratic Party is anything but "conservative-lite".
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Re: Canadian election!

Postby Rico » Wed May 04, 2011 4:11 pm

UnRepublicanstraightactor wrote:
Rico wrote:the NDP (conservative-lites).


Wrong. The New Democratic Party is anything but "conservative-lite".

Yes, I get that now. :) I used to think that the U.S. would be better off with more viable parties than just the Dems and Repubs, and more like Canada in this regard. Now I'm not so sure.
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Re: Canadian election!

Postby UnRepublicanstraightactor » Wed May 04, 2011 5:02 pm

Rico wrote:
UnRepublicanstraightactor wrote:
Rico wrote:the NDP (conservative-lites).


Wrong. The New Democratic Party is anything but "conservative-lite".

Yes, I get that now. :) I used to think that the U.S. would be better off with more viable parties than just the Dems and Repubs, and more like Canada in this regard. Now I'm not so sure.


Part of the problem is that aside from the US, Canada and the UK are the only remaining Western democracies that still use the "first past the post" voting system where the candidate with the most votes wins even if they don't get a majority and win with only a small plurality. Till now the Canadian Liberals didn't support an instant runoff system where votes cast for the third and fourth place finishers could be transferred to the first or second place finishers, or even the more simple proportional representation system. Both they and the Bloc Quebecois may likely give one of those systems a second look after Monday's results. One thing's for sure... until voting system reform is implemented in Canada, it won't be implemented here in the US.
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Re: Canadian election!

Postby Rico » Wed May 04, 2011 5:21 pm

Despite my stupid mistake about the NDP, from what I've been able to read about the Conservatives, it seems that the Canadians have given a clear majority to the likes of George Bush. Didn't they learn from our mistake?

In the words of my favorite Blue Truck, Red State trucker:

"....critics of the Harper regime have said that what the Prime Minister wants for kinder, gentler Canada is to become more like the United States, with Big Business given free rein, low taxes on corporations and the wealthy, fewer and smaller social programs, big, big spending on military equipment, and the introduction of socially conservative Bible-Belt policies on issues like abortion, gay rights, minorities, immigration, and women's issues. In the last five years, his Conservatives have blown a budget surplus accumulated by the previous Liberal Government, and racked up an enormous multi-billion-dollar deficit - which somehow reminds me of another political party south of the border. I'm just sayin'."

Maybe Harper's critics are wrong. Time will tell.
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Re: Canadian election!

Postby Earl Butz » Thu May 05, 2011 5:38 am

Not really....I think it was Michael Moore who compared him to Bush. Canadian politics are way more left wing, so our Conservatives are about equal with American Democrats. The NDP are cradle to grave socialists who want things like free day care, but would ruin the country with either higher taxes or debt.

Harper actually lives two neighborhoods over from me....I saw him in Safeway one day. Very down to earth guy. 8)
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Re: Canadian election!

Postby UnRepublicanstraightactor » Sat May 07, 2011 2:15 pm

Rico wrote:Despite my stupid mistake about the NDP, from what I've been able to read about the Conservatives, it seems that the Canadians have given a clear majority to the likes of George Bush. Didn't they learn from our mistake?

In the words of my favorite Blue Truck, Red State trucker:

"....critics of the Harper regime have said that what the Prime Minister wants for kinder, gentler Canada is to become more like the United States, with Big Business given free rein, low taxes on corporations and the wealthy, fewer and smaller social programs, big, big spending on military equipment, and the introduction of socially conservative Bible-Belt policies on issues like abortion, gay rights <rest snipped>


The good news is that Harper has already once gone in the route of seeing whether or not it would be a good idea to "reopen" the same-sex marriage debate and repeal it and the measure failed in parliament; the difference now is that Harper has a majority in parliament and could conceivably bring the issue back up for debate and see the repeal go through. However, I do not believe that he will opt to do so. Same with abortion. He understands that "gonads politics" are a third rail he'd rather not trip.

The additional good news is that this trend, i.e. treading lightly, on some of the social issues, including gay marriage, seems to be repeating itself in parts of the United States, as well.
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