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Bat-sh*t crazy Wingnuts

Postby furface » Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:42 pm

From outside a Howard Dean speech at Rep. Moran's town hall meeting on health care reform in Reston , VA. :shock: :roll:

Don't whip me, Ma'sa!

Whatever happened to civil political discourse in this country?

FYI, Moran had some of the rowdy protesters ejected from the meeting.
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Re: Bat-sh*t crazy Wingnuts

Postby backpacker » Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:01 pm

I know. Do you think these people are putting on an act? I can't see getting that angry over health care. I should be because I don't have any. It sounds like the people that have it are the ones that are mad. Shouldn't it be the other way around. I'm just having trouble understanding what is upsetting for some of them that you see going off at the town hall meetings.
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Re: Bat-sh*t crazy Wingnuts

Postby furface » Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:01 pm

No Scott, they're not putting on an act. What they're doing is reacting to the various lies and misrepresentations spoon fed to them by the far right. Things like 'death panels', care rationing, loss of choice in picking doctors, nationalization of the health care sector, 'Big Brother" collecting all their health information and using it for nefarious purposes, and the like.

It seems they have not the capacity to think critically about the issue and are willing to be sheeple for the vested interests in big pharma and big health.

The proposal is not perfect, by a long shot, but certainly isn't even close to the chamber of horrors painted by the opposition.
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Re: Bat-sh*t crazy Wingnuts

Postby chidiver » Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:35 pm

No, they are primarily Lyndon LaRouche followers.
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Re: Bat-sh*t crazy Wingnuts

Postby madsglen » Fri Aug 28, 2009 1:41 pm

OK, now you've done it. It seems that even typing out his name (let alone actually saying it out loud) encourages them (his 'followers'). :x :( The sad and alarming thing is, most of the people I see manning the card tables with his 'literature' (and that's what it mostly is, fiction) are younger people. Not exactly sure why that alarms me, but it does. Just the same as it alarms me when I think of the people who read 'People' or 'The Star' as news and believe everything they read on a blog or other places on the internet. Or those who quote 'The Onion' in their own blogs as a news source! They're just as bad as the Glenn Beck and Limbaugh followers.
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Re: Bat-sh*t crazy Wingnuts

Postby chidiver » Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:10 pm

madsglen wrote:OK, now you've done it. It seems that even typing out his name (let alone actually saying it out loud) encourages them (his 'followers'). :x :( The sad and alarming thing is, most of the people I see manning the card tables with his 'literature' (and that's what it mostly is, fiction) are younger people. Not exactly sure why that alarms me, but it does. Just the same as it alarms me when I think of the people who read 'People' or 'The Star' as news and believe everything they read on a blog or other places on the internet. Or those who quote 'The Onion' in their own blogs as a news source! They're just as bad as the Glenn Beck and Limbaugh followers.


Don't forget about Democratic Underground and Daily Koz as well.
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Re: Bat-sh*t crazy Wingnuts

Postby Rico » Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:33 am

I know politics was probably rougher in the the "good old days" but today, I don't have the stomach for it, at least until my blood pressure gets back into the "above normal" range and my doctor says it's okay to post in these sections. In the meantime I'll stick to That's Entertainment, Hunks, and Food. But today I can't resist.

These people aren't taking prisoners. Two "signs of the times" widely displayed in the capital city of the United States yesterday, 9/12/2009:

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Re: Bat-sh*t crazy Wingnuts

Postby chidiver » Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:25 pm

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Re: Bat-sh*t crazy Wingnuts

Postby Rico » Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:20 pm

Chi -- You're very short on words. I'm not. Posting those pics without explanation may lead some to believe there is some sort of equivalency going on here. There's not, and more about that below. But first things first…thanks for reminding why I stopped posting in this section more than a year ago, and made a mistake by posting in it today. I owe you. I won’t make that mistake again.

The pics you posted are despicable. Of course, hate speech and hate art are generated from both the left and the right. In fact, I imagine that there’s much worse out there, more than either you or I can imagine. That’s the First Amendment. We live with it.

But there’s one distinction with a huge difference between our posts, a distinction which you may have missed, and one that was the main point of my post. I'm sorry if I didn't make it clear. The pics I posted were taken from wide-spread media coverage from rallies throughout the country, as recently as yesterday in our national capital. The pics you posted were not, and did not receive widespread media coverage and attention when they surfaced. People generally had to seek them out.

There’s a reason for that. The artists who created the pics you posted rarely got their chance to get the pics covered by the national media, and certainly never got a chance to get their hate-filled messages in front of the President. Hell, protestors couldn’t even get benign messages of disagreement before the former President. Anything anti-Bush, no matter how gentle, was banned.

You may have heard of the “free speech zones” commonly used by Bush after 9/11 and through the 2004 election? There are many sources for this, but for brevity, here’s one from Wiki:

Free speech zones were commonly used by President George W Bush after the September 11, 2001 attacks and through the 2004 election. Free speech zones were set up by the Secret Service, who scouted locations where the U.S. president was scheduled to speak, or pass through. Officials targeted those who carried anti-Bush signs and escorted them to the free speech zones prior to and during the event. Reporters were often barred by local officials from displaying these protesters on camera or speaking to them within the zone. Protesters who refused to go to the free speech zone were often arrested and charged with trespassing, disorderly conduct and/or resisting arrest. A seldom-used federal law making it unlawful to "willfully and knowingly to enter or remain in ... any posted, cordoned off, or otherwise restricted area of a building or grounds where the President or other person protected by the Secret Service is or will be temporarily visiting" has also been invoked.

So much for consistency. For eight years we tolerated “free speech zones” under Bush yet the Republican right now feels threatened and are now on their high, right-wing horses because anti-Obama folks can’t carry loaded weapons into a Presidential event along with their anti-Obama signs. Give me a break.

As for me, it’s back to That’s Entertainment, Food, Travel and Hunks. Ciao!
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