Straight Guys Get Trained in Acting Straight

Discussion on what it means to be straight acting, whether it's good, bad or indifferent.

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Re: Straight Guys Get Trained in Acting Straight

Postby butch » Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:57 pm

Learning wrote:
butch wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7tn9lSERpA

That's a good clip because Nelson is so macho acting in comparison.


Nelson is a lot more of a thug. Do you see things that Martin could learn from Nelson or that Nelson could learn from Martin?


Yes they could learn things from each other. Nelson is not what he seems... he's quite the intellectual in his own way. Is he a thug, or just demonstrative?

Here are a couple of photos I received in the mail today from an old acquaintance... some he took of me and my boyfriend circa 1978. I would be about 33 and my boyfriend would be 22 at this time. Do we look gay? (there is some accidental subliminal suggestion in the photo) I like skinny guys... is my boyfriend what you would call skinny? I'm now 65... will be 66 at the end of October. I'm no longer looking for a boyfriend, nor a relationship. Off the topic... Mark, my boyfriend, passed away in 1994 from complications due to AIDS. Ironically, I'm tested as negative. I have a gut feeling I posses the Delta 32 mutation on my CCR5 receptor gene which makes me immune. Since I'm not positive, I've not found anyone who will pay to have my DNA scanned.

Does long hair (in this day and age) make a man look less male?

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It's all a matter of perception, isn't it. And this was our cultural values back in 1978. Times change.
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Changing Times

Postby Learning » Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:27 pm

butch wrote:
Yes they could learn things from each other. Nelson is not what he seems... he's quite the intellectual in his own way. Is he a thug, or just demonstrative?

Here are a couple of photos I received in the mail today from an old acquaintance... some he took of me and my boyfriend circa 1978. I would be about 33 and my boyfriend would be 22 at this time. Do we look gay? (there is some accidental subliminal suggestion in the photo) I like skinny guys... is my boyfriend what you would call skinny?...

Does long hair (in this day and age) make a man look less male?

It's all a matter of perception, isn't it. And this was our cultural values back in 1978. Times change.


By "more of a thug," I meant that Nelson seems more inclined toward violence than Martin. "The Simpsons" has long had characters that were complex which makes them seem more like real people.

Thank you for sharing the pictures. No. You guys don't look gay. You look like guys from the 70s. Maybe we could call him "svelte" if you don't like the word "skinny." A lot of young guys have been keeping their hair long enough to curl. I did too when I was in high school. But yeah, times and styles do change. That's a really good point. I'm sorry to hear about Mark. It seems like you guys had good times together.
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Teaching Toughness

Postby Learning » Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:02 am

Jackson Katz, an anti-violence educator, says that males are trained to do violence and to act tough in order to handle violence directed toward them. Katz calls this toughness a "mask," a "guise," and an "act," and compares "straight acting" to the false front of the Wizard of Oz. Katz says that media portrayals of men teach roles that emphasize dominance, power, and control.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP1ACIUH ... playnext=1

Katz also says that many minority groups act tough in order to gain respect. Acting tough to gain respect does not seem to be a common strategy among gay people. How does acting tough help or hurt?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVL8bqb2 ... re=related
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Re: Straight Guys Get Trained in Acting Straight

Postby outstraight » Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:34 pm

I don't think anyone can be "trained" to act straight. Either you are straight-acting or you are not.
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Hard to Learn

Postby Learning » Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:24 pm

outstraight wrote:I don't think anyone can be "trained" to act straight. Either you are straight-acting or you are not.


Thank you for joining in, Outstraight. You seem to think those training programs are doomed to fail. Would you explain more about what lets you know if someone is "straight acting" and what makes people's style hard to change?
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"No Homo"

Postby Learning » Thu Sep 23, 2010 5:47 am

Bryan Safi makes fun of straight guys who try to cover themselves by using the expression "no homo" and talks about how difficult keeping up the appearance of being straight can be for straight guys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBkYdUgl3-M
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Pushing Sex Roles

Postby Learning » Sat Oct 02, 2010 11:10 am

Sex roles are still being enforced even by violence and authority.

Sixth grader Tyler Wilson decided to be a cheerleader, but some classmates did not approve and decided to break his arm.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/bullied ... g-11754276

"Oak" was widely supported to be homecoming king at Mona Shores High School in Michigan, but the school disqualified Oak's votes to be king because Oak had been born female even though Oak identifies as male.

http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/mu ... der-senior
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